Curse

MikeV · Feb 15, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Honestly, I don't give a rat's a$$ what other people do in the game. I didn't buy it to be the fun police and make sure everyone does everything as it was intended. I bought it for my enjoyment. If they want to skip stuff and jump to where ever they need to be, who cares. They bought there game and are enjoying it the way they want to. Everybody wins. Well, except the people who bought it to be the fun police. Looking at these forums, that's a full time job that I wouldn't want.

Pleikki · Feb 15, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29

mm for this i like in factions / nf that you cant do some missions etc until you done some quests i would like same for lvls like you must be lvl 18 to enter any outpost or town drok are lvl 15 desert etc.

Lord Natural · Feb 15, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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Originally Posted by CHannum

Not at all, I'd think it's pretty stupid to make another character if you don't actually have the interest in playing it.

People have many reasons for making new characters. Maybe they want to ready a PvE char for PvP. Perhaps they enjoy playing high level dungeons/areas and want to have an extra profession available for them. If I don't have a monk and want to be able to 55 some endgame areas, I should be forced to spend hours/days trudging through Tyria to ascend? That's retarded. Interest in playing a character isn't as broad as you make it out to be. I can have interest in farming a hard mode boss, yet have no interest in trudging through Frost Gate at level 10 for the 10th time. I'll throw a few k around and save myself from the mindnumbing boredom, thanks.

Operative 14 · Feb 15, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Ever wonder what would happen if it was made so people couldn't get runs through Snake Dance?

Good point. Ever seen how popular the later portions (aside from farming spots like the Palace) of Factions are? Therefore, it would kill Prophicies.

I'm going to echo what a lot of people on this topic have said; I have played through all the games with at least one character, never having gotten a run. My later characters all get runs for max armor and other cities simply because I want to skip the now superfluous storyline and get to doing level 20 things.

Another view point for all those that think we are ruining the games for ourselves (as runee's) is, would not playing through the game multiple times also ruin the story for some? I realized a few weeks ago that I don't like playing through the game multiple times if I don't have to. That is what ruins the storyline for me. The first time through it's this grand, epic tale of how you go and defeat (insert villain here). The second time through it's an interesting storyline, and hey, wait, didn't you already kill that guy? Then third time through it's like yeah yeah whatever Rurik you're going to (spoiler) anyway so who cares if the rivers have turned to tar and where you played as a kid, and now I'm going to kill this impossibly hard to defeat villain... again. And then down from there.

Basically, I love the game, but from my perspective it completely ruins the game to go through it multiple times. As with anything in life, the more times you are exposed to something you think is neat, the less you think it is special or neat and becomes mundane. That's just me though, there are people who do enjoy playing through the game multiple times and it only enhances their appreciation of it.

mr_groovy · Feb 15, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Nothing futher to add as had been stated by numerous people.

Question for the Op though:

Do you ever bother replying in your own threads? Or do you only like starting them >.>. I'm not expecting any reply on this.

Kusandaa · Feb 15, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

Black Angel please read this post. and anyone else that is confused about why people skip areas.

most people have farming chars and the chars they play the game with.(it would seem some people can not accept this.)

my main goes all over does everything and anything, my monk on the other hand is a farmer, same for my necro, my ele does eveything same for my derv, it all depends on what you made the char for.

The point you made about it getting lame or old is very true which is why once I get bored with the farming spot or what not I change chars and do something else, same when pve gets old I pvp.

I do not think you thought of everything (do you think everyone has 1 char and 1 char only?) you must take into account that most people have all 3 games which is 8 char slots, some have the SE/CE editions of the games so they have 10 slots. so the statment that they are only hurting themselves is just a limited view of the big picture. if I want to do the ROF missions again I do them with my main char or one of my backup mains, if I want to farm I will use the farming chars or even farm with my main.

QFT.

I use my main to play everything really. He's the first one to go through all the campaigns, that I did most of my questing, and that I do most of my farming on anyways. The rest are there because I either wanted a farming spot (my monk with DoA), needed a side goal to keep me going at one point (Primeval armor for my ranger), for completion's sake (finishing Prophecies with my dervish) or to help guildies (getting my nuker around).

I don't feel as I'm hurting myself as I have enough "time" to learn a profession, come up with builds, mod them, as I do the missions I generally do. When you've been playing for nearly 3 years, it's not so hard to learn how to play a new profession or build.

Do I hurt anyone by getting a run? No. Do I hurt anyone by going back to those missions, learning my profession? No. If I didn't take the time to LEARN how to play the game, yes, I'd hurt the people I play with. Do I hurt myself for learning whatever I'm doing, my way? Don't think so either.

Darkside · Feb 15, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I personally don't care about people getting run...play the game how you wanna play it. What does annoy me is when they want in a group. I remember being in a pug for arborstone and there were two characters below lvl 10 who wanted into the group. Pay someone or get a guild/alliance member to help you don't beg and whine to get into a random group when you are completely useless for the mission.

Smile Like Umean It · Feb 15, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Well, when you take a Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Assassin, Paragon, Derv, 2 Necros, 2 Wars and 4 Rangers across all three chapters, I guess then, you can say something about people getting ran.

When I first go through a chapter I pay close attention to what the storyline is, if I don't get it I look it up on the wiki. So, even if I am playing a character that's been ran I'm well aware of what's going on.
And who's to say I don't go back and finish the entire chapter with those characters? I just don't want to have to go through the same thing over and over again.

And FYI 99% of the times I get ran is by me on my second account with a character who has already been through.

So, my response to your question of

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

So here's the main statement: What do you think about people who ask for runs through just about anything?

Also, thank you for reading my thread.

It's none of my business, it's none of your business or anyone else's for that matter.
If you happen across someone in your group at an end-mission who obviously doesn't know what they're doing then either help them, request they be kicked or get over it and keep your mouth closed.

Ouchie · Feb 15, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

A long time ago I felt like everyone getting runs were cheating and it bothered me they didn't play the whole game ..........

But now I don't really care as it doesn't make a difference to how I want to play or what I want to do with my characters.

If I have a character that doesn't want to get her feet wet ever I will pay someone to run through water for me - - another doesn't want to go near snakes - hey I'll pay for an exterminator lol

IslandHermet · Feb 15, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

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Originally Posted by Kusandaa

QFT.

I use my main to play everything really. He's the first one to go through all the campaigns, that I did most of my questing, and that I do most of my farming on anyways. The rest are there because I either wanted a farming spot (my monk with DoA), needed a side goal to keep me going at one point (Primeval armor for my ranger), for completion's sake (finishing Prophecies with my dervish) or to help guildies (getting my nuker around).

I don't feel as I'm hurting myself as I have enough "time" to learn a profession, come up with builds, mod them, as I do the missions I generally do. When you've been playing for nearly 3 years, it's not so hard to learn how to play a new profession or build.

Do I hurt anyone by getting a run? No. Do I hurt anyone by going back to those missions, learning my profession? No. If I didn't take the time to LEARN how to play the game, yes, I'd hurt the people I play with. Do I hurt myself for learning whatever I'm doing, my way? Don't think so either.

you quoted the wrong person bro. I was telling him why people skip areas.

BlackAngel · Feb 15, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

Black Angel please read this post. and anyone else that is confused about why people skip areas.

most people have farming chars and the chars they play the game with.(it would seem some people can not accept this.)

my main goes all over does everything and anything, my monk on the other hand is a farmer, same for my necro, my ele does eveything same for my derv, it all depends on what you made the char for.

The point you made about it getting lame or old is very true which is why once I get bored with the farming spot or what not I change chars and do something else, same when pve gets old I pvp.

I do not think you thought of everything (do you think everyone has 1 char and 1 char only?) you must take into account that most people have all 3 games which is 8 char slots, some have the SE/CE editions of the games so they have 10 slots. so the statment that they are only hurting themselves is just a limited view of the big picture. if I want to do the ROF missions again I do them with my main char or one of my backup mains, if I want to farm I will use the farming chars or even farm with my main.

This is exactly why I underlined "in my opinion" in my original post. I also have all 3 campaigns and the expansion and 9 char slots occupied all of which characters has completed at least one campaign, and I also have quite different view of the game. I don't think anything about other players and how they use their character(s)/time. I thought this place was for discussion :P.

Richardt · Feb 15, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Getting a run to skip some non necessary missions? I don't see why not.

Getting a run/ferry for sme max armor? Sure!

The only thing I have a problem with people getting a run are those that are low level with elite armor. Does it affect my gameplay at all? Nope. For me it just seems contrary to the armor being "elite"-I was actually happy when the GWEN armors had some sort of requirement outside of having all the mats and gold.

Nemo the Capitalist · Feb 15, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by arbiter

when you are on your 8th pve character, fighting to every location on 3 expansions seems a little stupid wouldnt you agree?

/sign

ofc no one wants to waste all that time

Kusandaa · Feb 15, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

you quoted the wrong person bro. I was telling him why people skip areas.

Haha nope, I was simply adding points... I believe. I must've gotten carried away because I always do.

But yeah, I agree with you on that earlier post (hence the QFT).

MithranArkanere · Feb 15, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

I only get into runs when it's late or I'm feeling lazy.

But I never run something for the first time and never without triying to do it 3..5 times myself.

And I only enter runs for some annoying repetitive missions that I have already made with other characters, never to access outposts.

payne · Feb 15, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

makes me money : people being lazy = me richer....

I dont like people asking for runs but if they are lazy and just to prove how "leet" they are by beating a game they will soon be proved false!

doesnt matter if people want runs really, achievements are within the eye of the beholder; no-one else!

Torqual · Feb 15, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

I enjoy playing Guild Wars. Therefore skipping large parts of it doesn't make sense to me. I have eight characters and average of 3 Protectors per campaign. When I get to the end of the campaign I go back and do it again in Hard Mode. I have two Vanquisher titles and a Guardian title, plus several in progress.

I don't consider that I understand a class properly until I have completed all three campaigns on that character of that class. Redoing the same stuff with 8 different character classes is not repetitious for me, as I am using whole different skillsets, learning, and playing different roles. Each time I go out into a new EA I try new combinations of skills.

Role-playing enjoyment FTW!

Do I like to hyperspace to the end of a campaign? No. I think it would be lame to do it? Yes. Does it bother me that other people do? Not really, I accepted a long time ago that lame people also play GW.

Dylananimus · Feb 15, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by payne

makes me money : people being lazy = me richer....

I dont like people asking for runs but if they are lazy and just to prove how "leet" they are by beating a game they will soon be proved false!

doesnt matter if people want runs really, achievements are within the eye of the beholder; no-one else!

As it's been stated by numerous people here, it's really not much to do with lazyness

Sure, if it's somebody's first char and they're just not bothering to play the game...it's not a great way to go, and that is indeed lazy.

But for those of us who have played many times through each mission and quest of each expansion, runs are a great way to explore farming characters, or just to get characters to certain places to do specific things. It's also handy if you're in a guild to have diffrent characters ready and able to help guilmates in as many places you can get them. Why play the entire game through on each of those 'utility' characters if those few characters are their just for farming or to help your guildies? Seems a tad silly and a bit of a waste of time if you have one or two 'main' characters you mostly like to concentrate on. Having said that, I do tend to try to rush myself through missions and places wihout having to spend money on runs

But that's just me being stingy.

It's not lazy if it's not your first char...it's innovative. And to be honest, more often that not I tend to backtrack with those farming and guildhelper chars to explore the game with them as a different class. It's just nice to have them in places that are useful sometimes, however

Not all of us have the amount of time to play as others, so can't spend as much time with each char.

Eldin · Feb 15, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I have nothing against people on their 6th PvE character or people who need to get some armor for a build they've been working hard on setting up.

But people who are lazy and get run just since they don't like the game need to DIE.

I don't mean when you get owned on a mission over and over, give up and get run, I mean the people who wanna get run to Drok's just because they are impatient SOBs.

credit · Feb 15, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Most people agree that doing the same pointless missions/quests is pointless, so we get runs to places.